Changing Program/Degree

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  • #5659

    smokeybandit
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    My first few days working within the IA role has been amazing.  I almost forgot how amazing it feels to be working in the role.  I was just about to concede my Tech ambitions when the opportunity became available and I was promoted into the new position.

    I was almost ready to start my course in a Management/Marketing program.  Now, I’m rethinking that entire strategy.  I would be better off undertaking the BCIS program because working in Tech is amazing!

    The first few days had me imaging computers, replacing RAM modules, and supporting trouble tickets.  I would be really happy if this position became permanent.

  • #5662

    Mr.Children
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    Congrats on the role!

    However, I have to be realistic as well. The tech industry is changing very fast. Service Desk I believe will be more specialized since tickets will be harder to resolve.  Desktop roles will be downgraded to something similar to people working at the cable company giving out cable boxes. Infrastructure roles will get hit big time as everybody is moving to the cloud. No cables to run or servers to set up…all in the cloud.

    It’s good to start what you’re doing…it’s a great opportunity…but you have to try to get out asap and prepare for the jobs of the future. If you want to do more, you have to learn coding, scripting, servers, networking, cloud computing, etc.

    • #5663

      smokeybandit
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      You do understand that cloud computing involves server architecture, right?  Cloud computing just means the network of servers is accessible through the web.  Any major company will have their own server architecture setup versus relying on third-party cloud systems.  There’s too many proprietary data that needs to remain within the company.

    • #5665

      Mr.Children
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      Companies will set up most of their networks and servers inside the third party cloud and will not use their own data center anymore or have limited data center space. I know that it’s hard to believe in the past and now, but that’s where it’s heading…FAST. Third party Cloud companies have more resources and provide much better security than any company can do on their own. All company information is connected to the private network which is connected to the internet. We’re all connected! So most companies will need to work with 3rd party cloud providers. Most companies just don’t have the ability to create very secure and reliable networks and computer systems.

       

    • #5666

      smokeybandit
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      You’re referring to SME, not Fortune 500 companies.

    • #5667

      Mr.Children
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      Well, yes, most people do work for small and medium sized businesses…so most of the time, if you work in tech, you’ll need to learn public cloud computing.

      Apple, Walmart, Oracle, Sony , SAP,Symantec, Capitol one, Down Jones, John Hancock, subway, best buy, etc are some of the customers who are using or in the process of transition to public cloud. Most companies use Microsoft cloud for their email.

      I’m just telling people the trend and what most business are migrating towards. Anybody who works in technology whether it’s IT or Engineering….you’re going to work with the cloud. So it’s the best bet right now in technology.

      If you’re not going to learn cloud…..then what are you going to learn then? I’m interested to hear. Even if you work in service desk / desktop support type of jobs, you’ll have to set up a 0ffice 365 account which is in the cloud.

       

    • #5671

      smokeybandit
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      You do understand that the economy is more dynamic than just one trend, right?  Anyway, if you’re too busy trying to catch the next wave, you’ll lose focus on the here and now.  There’s a good book that you should read by Eckhart Toll called “The Power of Now”.  Aside from that, for Tech-related resources, try pdfchm.net.

    • #5676

      Mr.Children
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      The trend is what’s happening now! All companies are going into the cloud. Companies are building their infrastructure in the cloud and engineers are deploying code in the cloud. If you don’t mind doing a lower level job with lower pay, then you can do service desk desktop support and wait to see what happens. If you want to make more money, then it’s obvious that most infrastructure jobs now are looking for somebody with some cloud skills or willing to learn it.

    • #5679

      smokeybandit
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      You obviously don’t understand call centre architecture.  There’s a lot of technology at play — from server to networking and telephony.  We have 500 people working at our site and millions worldwide.  I’ll find something to keep occupied.

    • #5692

      Mr.Children
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      If you want to make less money and not be competitive, then that’s okay.

    • #5693

      smokeybandit
      Participant

      I’m happy where I’m at.  I’m sure that’s more important.  I make money through other means also like investments.

    • #5694

      smokeybandit
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      The IA role is a Management position.  I’m happy where I’m at.

    • #5695

      Mr.Children
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      There are management positions for departments. You being happy is most important. I know a girl who makes 13 bucks an hour and work that job for over 10 years…and she’s happy. However, I believe both are you are most likely to get paid less, get laid off, and struggle in the job market. It’s like learning the computer…you don’t have to know how to type or use a computer to get a job…but you’ll be less marketable in the job market. Most of the time, I find that people become happier when they make more money, doing jobs that are more challenging, and competitive/marketable in the job market.

    • #5733

      smokeybandit
      Participant

      Well you’re right about one thing, if another opportunity comes up with better pay, I’ll likely go for it.  I’m in the process of getting A+, Network+ and Security+ certified with compTIA.  I’ll likely keep doing my Bachelor of Management, Marketing Major.

      A certificate is all you need to get tech credibility.  That BMM will also help me.  The average income of a BMM is about $92,000 according to the University I’m attending.  Average for Computer Science is only $75,000.

    • #5735

      Mr.Children
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      I’m not trying to be a d*ck. I use to be that guy who was “happy” with his job. I was getting paid less, but loved the company and co-workers. Was planning to work there for 15 years, but I got laid off. When I started applying for jobs, they were offering me double the salary. I don’t like most of the companies I worked at since, but that’s life. I’m happier because who wouldn’t be happier if you can get a brand new car every year! Of course, I’m not saying I get a new car every year, but by working at different jobs, it’s like i’m getting a new car. If you compare 2 guys, one paid less and one paid more…..and just compare them by time….it’s almost like he’s getting a free house after a few years. Just think about it..if a guy got paid 50k more each year..just think about it after 15 years! I’ve been both guys and I can tell you that I’m happier knowing that I’m getting a free house. I push people and say what I say because I know that 99% of the time, people would be happier if they got a better paying job. Half of them may not like what I say, but most of them would be happier if they did what I say.

      Anyways, you should listen to this guy about comptia. I’m not saying follow his advice to a T, but I think in general, he’s right. My opinion is that you don’t need A+ since you already a tech job. A+ is usually for people who don’t have a tech job and need something to help them get in. Network+ is too general and not hands on. I think security+ is probably good. You have to distinguish between companies that are just trying to make money off you and companies that will tech you to do what’s in demand.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX2beAZ6VO4

       

    • #5759

      smokeybandit
      Participant

      Having A+ is a step up.  In the job posting for IA it does say A+ preferred, so if you have it you do have an upperhand.  Besides, it’s only $200 to write the exam.  Well worth the investment.

    • #5761

      Mr.Children
      Participant

      Preferred mean they like it if you have it, but it’s not required. It will always help and doesn’t hurt to get A+, but it’s most beneficial to people who have no experience and are trying to get their foot in the door…..or maybe to people who once to stay in the same position or department long term. If you want to set up laptops for 15 years, it’s probably good to get A+.

      From what I’ve seen, most people don’t have A+ and if you want to get to the next level, you need to focus on getting to the next level. A+ will you get to Step A, but once you’re in Step A and want to get to step B, you need to not waste too much time on Step A.

       

    • #5768

      smokeybandit
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      It’s always nice to have and does look good on the resume.  having A+ certificate is equal to 6-9 months on the job.

    • #5773

      smokeybandit
      Participant

      Meaning between two candidates, the one with the A+ certification is more likely to get the job.  So why not just invest $200 and get certified?

    • #5776

      Mr.Children
      Participant

      If you want to work in service desk and desktop support long term, then yes, I strongly recommend. However, the biggest benefit and purpose of A+ is to get a help desk / desktop support job. If you already have it, it’s not really necessary and at the moment, your biggest opportunity is getting to the next level and making more money. If you already have the service desk /desktop support job, your time would be better spent preparing for the next level.

      More often than not, the person who already got the help desk / desktop support job don’t want to compete again for that same job.

  • #5670

    Pleu
    Participant

    computers change/upgrade pgm constantly; claim obsoleteness if don’t!

    transcend the matrix; do what ya love?

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